Tuesday, May 30, 2006
Loyalist agent shot in Belfast…
THE top loyalist shot in north Belfast is said to be Mark Haddock, the alleged UVF commander and Special Branch agent. Haddock, who faces an attempted murder charge, was bailed last week.
Belfast Gonzo @ 04:18 PM
This doesn’t look good for Sir Reg…
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:30 PMI hope that Reg & co all have their alibis sorted out!
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:32 PMIt’s confirmed as Haddock. Multiple injuries, critical.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:34 PMShot eight times and still alive
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:36 PMSounds fishy to me.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:43 PMI must confess to felling absolutely nothing for this gentleman and the misfortunate situation he now finds himself in. In East Antrim and North Belfast there are various groups perhaps amounting to 50 individuals in total who have caused misery for many.
With regards Mount Vernon, there is the question of the youth who was murdered in Somerton and allegations that the murders were known to the Police and lived in Mount Vernon. I have no reason to believe the rumours true or indeed false but it shows the damage to public confidence caused by collusion.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:47 PMIt suits special branch to see Haddock dead. They have been coming under increasing pressure from Raymond Mc Cord Snr to expose the activities of Haddock who was allowed to kill with impunity while on the special branch books. Like every other SB agent he has served his purpose and it seems he has been set up for murder to coverup the dirty activities of the RUC/PSNI special branch.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:55 PMthank god he was’nt a fenian buying his cigarettes in dundalk. Then the “law and order” unionists would really be upset.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 04:58 PMOh dear, oh dear, oh dear, for Mr Empey the rather sordid marriage of convenience with the UVF seems to about to end in a rather short period of time. The DUP will savage him, rightly so.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 05:03 PMIf the Brits intend to continue liquidating their assets this must be very worrying for certain UDA men in North Belfast, not to mention their friends in both leading unionist parties - no wonder the dirt squad are busy trying to distract us all with black propaganda about Sinn Fein.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 05:08 PMlib2016
One very senior UDA man in particular and a couple of his main supporters must be very worried.
Except you’ve hit on the wrong part of Belfast altogether.
Sections of the media are well aware that this man has been working for the intelligence services for years but are sitting on it because it doesn’t help the big picture.
How long will that last?
Many of his friends have twigged on lately.Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 05:30 PMPeking,
My interpretation is that most loyalists are very well aware of what is happening in the way of moving the unionist paramilitaries towards a civilian role. This is yet another example being made ‘pour encourager les autres’.Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 05:41 PM“My interpretation is that most loyalists are very well aware of what is happening in the way of moving the unionist paramilitaries towards a civilian role.”
By the same token then, did most republicans know that Scap, Donaldson et. al. were working for the security services as part of moving the IRA towards a civilian role?
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:00 PMPeking,
If you are asking whether most republicans realise that the British had and still have agents within the republican movement then the answer is yes. They also realise that the eventual success of the Peace Process is dependent on the support of the leadership of all sides except the unionists.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:10 PMlib2016
No.
Given your earlier comment and by the same token, I’m asking did most republicans know that Scap, Donaldson et. al. were working for the security services as part of moving the IRA towards a civilian role.Simple enough question.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:21 PM“the eventual success of the Peace Process is dependent on the support of the leadership of all sides except the unionists.”
Nuff said
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:33 PMObviously they wouldn’t have known which members of the republican movement were working for the British. Equally obviously they know and support the idea that the Peace Process is agreed on and supported by the Irish government, the British government and the nationalist people of the North which would seem to indicate that they all support Sinn Fein’s stated aim ‘to take the gun out of Irish politics’.
I really don’t know how I can make it any clearer - the Peace Process includes removing the need for an armed IRA and is supported by all reasonable people, which seems to mean everybody but the unionists.
The British and the huge majority of Irish people, including Sinn Fein, support civilianisation or demilitarisation if you prefer that word.
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:37 PMfairdeal,
Unionism gained and held power by undemocratic means, remember the UWC. Naturally democrats have reacted. What else do you propose should or could happen?
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 06:42 PM“Obviously they wouldn’t have known which members of the republican movement were working for the British. Equally obviously they know and support the idea that the Peace Process is agreed on and supported by the Irish government, the British government and the nationalist people of the North which would seem to indicate that they all support Sinn Fein’s stated aim ‘to take the gun out of Irish politics’.”
Seems like you’re saying the British agents that were working to a Peace Process agenda were all right then seeing as they were moving things generally in the right direction. A novel position for a republican.
It doesn’t matter either then, presumably, that they were murdering all round them at the same time.
Not so novel a republican position that one.Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 07:09 PMthank god he was’nt a fenian buying his cigarettes in dundalk. Then the “law and order” unionists would really be upset.
heck, I’ve been keeping a watchful eye on your posts of late, and just want to say I admire your wit tremendously.
Keep on exposing the hypocracy, it’s always a winner, and will eventually collapse unionism.Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 07:58 PMNot a terribly surprising incident.
It will be interesting however if the injured party lives to tell another tale.Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 08:54 PMWell! I never thought for a moment that I would smile when I heard a Loyalist was riddled as our Mr Haddcok was. But Boy I had a grin like a cheshire cat! I think this is possibly the best news from Ulster in a long, long time.
Now another embarresment for the SB is almost gone. A joyous day for all Eh!! Well? maybe not Mr. Empty!!
Posted by on May 30, 2006 @ 10:14 PMShame on you “Handy man wi a hanky ball”. Haddcok might be a very bad boy but he is some mother’s son.
Wouldn’t it be better if we had a police force other than the PSNI/UVF, a transparent prosecution service (with none of this public interest shite) and a balanced judiciary that we all could accept and have him tried and made to answer questions about his relationship with so called forces of “law and order”.
This is too much like the case of William Strobie. A loyalist who knows too much about their relationship with the state and has a visible profile suddenly being shot.
I hope he lives and spills the beans on his security force contacts.
Posted by on May 31, 2006 @ 01:45 AMHeck
Totally agree with you there. To gloat over the non-judicial attempt to terminate another human being with extreme prejudice brings shame on the gloater.
Posted by on May 31, 2006 @ 04:32 AMIf Mark Haddock dies, I would like to acknowledge the achievements of the Sunday World. This will be the 21st person who has appeared on their front page and has later been assassinated. This name and assassinate campaign, with Denis Donaldson being the last victim is obviously working.
Posted by on May 31, 2006 @ 08:59 AM
