Thursday, January 19, 2006
Latest Sinn Fein spy outed
Well, it looks like this one wasn’t tittle tattle. In fact nobody seems to have fingered Sean Lavelle before he outed himself. The party worker joins a growing band of ex informers from inside the Republican movement.
Mick Fealty @ 11:45 AM
Adams Knew !!!
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Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 11:59 AMGlen,
That is exactly what Adams was saying yesterday,Adams knows the extent of the espoinage. It is idiots on this board who can not accept that they are riddled. Adams said their is more to come and the Shinners on here had better get used to it.
People like Chris Gaskin, Dubliner, Pat , who know better lead the sheep like Elfinto down a dark alley. Time to wake up lads.
Martin.
PS Another twenty odd years working for the Brits, sounds like this touting was a career for some.Lavelle was a well known IRA man, I once pitched a neighbour of his.
PPS. Well done Gonzo, that is good Int work.
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:09 PMCan’t follow the link, why did this guy feel like outing himself now?
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:13 PMwow Gerry Adams should be sacked the brits have informers in the republican movement. Working against touts is an occupational hazard for republicans and still we are the people that every political party on this island fears bring it on.
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:14 PMSinn Fein worker: ‘I was police agent’
A Sinn Fein election worker in Fermanagh says he was a paid police Special Branch agent for over 20 years.Sean Lavelle, from Donagh, Lisnaskea, says he was recruited as an agent in the early ‘80s.
A republican source dismissed the revelation as “no big deal” while the PSNI said it would continue to use “every lawful means” to protect the community.
In a short statement issued yesterday (Wednesday) through his solicitor, Mr. Frank McManus, veteran republican Sean Lavelle said he had been a paid Special Branch agent.
“I was pressurised into this after I was arrested some time in 1980,” he said.
He said he had made a detailed statement to his solicitor.
“I deeply regret my activities and the hurt which they have caused to my family and to my community,” Mr. Lavelle stated.
Reacting to Mr. Lavelle’s statement the Sinn Fein MLA Thomas O’Reilly said: “I’m not particularly surprised by such a revelation.”
Describing it as a “sort of coming out,” he said: “It’s long been clear that Special Branch and these agencies have cajoled and pressurised and blackmailed people into working for them over the years. It’s clear there’s an element in Special Branch or the PSNI that remains a negative force with this political policing. It’s preventing progress in the Peace Process. They are part of this problem. They are the problem at present.
“The individual concerned has been associated with Sinn Fein over a number of years. He would have been involved in election work for the party several years ago. He was a party worker. He was involved in election work and that was it. He is not a party member,” stated Mr. O’Reilly.
Asked if Mr. Lavelle’s activities could have been damaging to Sinn Fein, Mr. O’Reilly said they had no way of telling until they found out what those activities were.
“But anybody that is working for Special Branch is not helping their community or the peace process or anything else,” he insisted.
He said that as far as Sinn Fein is concerned the matter is closed.
“That’s it. He has come out and made this statement and that’s it,” Mr. O’Reilly concluded.Responding to Mr. Lavelle’s statement, a PSNI spokesman said: “While not commenting specifically on these allegations we would say that intelligence is absolutely crucial to the welbeing of the people of Northern Ireland, as is the case elsewhere. Over the years intelligence has proved to be the most significant factor in saving life and preventing crime. The police will therefore seek by every lawful means to enhance its intelligence gathering capability because it’s the duty of the police to protect the community to the utmost of its professional ability.”
There you are Andy.Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:18 PMJD -thanks. Very efficent!
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:27 PMSorry Andy I forgot IR’s a registration site - the curse of the net!
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:31 PM‘Martin Ingram’, ‘Jack Grantham’ or whoever you may be today.
While you may consider me to be some kind of sheep I will certainly be going nowhere near your poison pen.
Looks like it’s not only the big bad city boys who have touts among their ranks. Still I suppose Adams & co will get the blame regardless.
I put it to you again. As you claim to be a friend of Irish republicanism, when are you going to expose the agents in charge of state-sponsored death squads and the British and unionist politicians who connived with them??
Don’t worry. I don’t expect an answer!
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:33 PMElfinto,
when are you going to expose the agents in charge of state-sponsored death squads and the British and unionist politicians who connived with them??
This topic is not about me, as Mick would say stop playing the man. Keep on topic.
Thanks.
Martin
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:35 PMHa ha. You just called me a sheep becuase I have the presence of mind to see through your bluster. Pot, kettle, black methinks.
Good attempt to dodge the question though!
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:43 PMI don’t necessarily subscribe to any conspiracy theory but it is certainly clear that from the mid to late 80’s on only a small number of Republicans (South Armagh/East Tyrone)were at war with the British state. The reat at besat wanted the Brits to facilitate an honourable peace at the same time as giving some political advantage to Sinn Fein.
As a project the armed struggle failed, I am not sure if the peace process can succeed.
Adams Knew!!!!!!
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Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:45 PMSorry for the typo.
The rest at best wanted the Brits to facilitate an honourable peace at the same time as giving some political advantage to Sinn Fein.
Adams Knew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:51 PMGlen Taisie,
You’re like a cracked record. Adams knew what?
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:52 PMGlen,
I have been saying this for some time, one or two of the “ Slow” people on this board have argued that this is not so.I wonder WHY?
Quote"it is certainly clear that from the mid to late 80’s on only a small number of Republicans (South Armagh/East Tyrone)were at war with the British state. The rest at besat wanted the Brits to facilitate an honourable peace at the same time as giving some political advantage to Sinn Fein. Unquote
Elfinto. Dont play the man keep to the topic. Thats a good boy.
Martin.
PS. I wonder when mystic Adams is going to tell the world about Freddy and let the victims families ( mostly Republican) know the truth?
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:57 PMThis is just turning into a big sneerfest..it’s childish, petty and very disappointing. It may as well be the silly season in NI politics right now.
Does everyone not see where this is going, and that this is going to end up like the final scene in the movie ‘Spertacus’ or its lampoon equivalent in ‘The Life Of Brian’, or several other examples in Cinema/TV drama, where everyone stands up and claims responsibility for a punishable act to confuse those ‘in charge’, in this case, being a tout of some form or other?
Next thing you know, Bobby Sands will have been posthumously ‘outed’.
“I’m Brian, and so’s my wife!”
-Monty Python, 1973(ish)Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 12:58 PMThere are double agents working within the British / American Intelligence system i.e M16, M15, CIA whatever. How many? Do not know. Who are they? Do not know. But whenever they either reveal themselves or are revealed I will be in a position to say: ‘ told you so’ ala Martin Ingram.
Keep the dairies handy, Martin.Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 01:08 PM‘Jack Martin’
Please spare me the sanctimony about playing the man. Like I said pot, kettle, black. It almost as bad as your sanctimony about falsely implicating people as informers.
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 01:10 PMDIRELAND WORLD EXCLUSIVE!
SINN FEIN MEMBER CONFESSES TO ‘NOT BEING INFORMANT’
In a tense news conference, Sinn Fein Director of Commuity Restorative Kneecapping, James O’Bond, revealed that he had not been working for Bristish intelligence all his life.
‘I’m deeply ashamed to admit it’ said O’Bond, ‘but I am a committed Irish republican. I bitterly regret not being caught with my trousers down or in some other compromising position which has resulted in me not having a new name and a bungalow in Spain.’
Mr O’Bond has announced that he will expel himself from the party and shoot himself in the head somewhere in South Armagh.
ENDS
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 01:14 PMBog Exile.
You know you make a good point here, it is a usual defence when exposed. We now should ask WHY he came forward today? what prompted him to do so?
Quote"I’m deeply ashamed to admit it’ said O’Bond, ‘but I am a committed Irish republican.Unquote
Very good point Boggy, you are obviously an exile who made good.
Martin
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:16 PMElfinto
Yes I may sound like a cracked record but there are only two alternatives.
1. Adams Knew or
2. Adams did not know.I think Adams (corporate name for Sinn Fein leadership) knew.
Adams Knew!!!!!
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Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:25 PMThere are double agents working within the British / American Intelligence system i.e M16, M15, CIA whatever.
Do you mean like Denis Donaldson who the British used to spy upon the Americans governments when he was over as an IRA man and doing SF business in Washington.
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:27 PMI know the Provo supports on Slugger must be having a pretty horrid time of it at the moment, but rather than turning on those who warned them that there was more to come, perhaps they should take some time out for reflection. If any normal democratic party had been infiltrated by spies, in this manner its leader would resign. Hasn’t the time come for Adams to (at least) undergo a vote of confidence?
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:31 PMKeith M,
Vote of Confidence = Elections. Looks like Adams et al are winning that vote of confidencePosted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:37 PMWhy did this guy Lavelle jump before he was pushed? Could he not have let sleeping dogs lie?
keith, only if SF was a political party, it is not. It is a personality cult and a clique, not a democratic bona fide political party. That is why Adams and co. will never do the decent thing and go.
Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:40 PMVote of Confidence = Elections. Looks like Adams et al are winning that vote of confidence
Did we miss an election since Donaldson and the others were outed?Posted by on Jan 19, 2006 @ 02:43 PM
