Saturday, February 25, 2006
Blogging the riots…
The eye witness accounts have been stunning from Back Seat Drivers and Dossing Times, along with DT’s great capture of the scene ripped from the City Council’s traffic cameras. Take a bow lads! Strong shot from Flickr of a Guard apparently about to be hit with a brick - with, bizarrely, a Villa fan in foregrond). More from Celtic Freedom; Chris Logan thinks RSF are a disgrace. Dublin Met Blogs has loads of stuff. Kevin was on the ground too. Thesme feels sick. Chris is annoyed. Beano says, so much for a new Ireland. The big man is disgusted. Richard calls it a wake up call for the State. El Blogador with a round up of reaction. Citizen photos here, here, here, here, here, here and here.
Update: BBC video of the riot. And some very good stuff on Indymedia.
Mick Fealty @ 09:50 PM
this is all hysterical crap - go to link below to see a real riot in dublin and play the video - what happened today was a mere skirmish being blown up by over-exitable and stupid media
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/18/newsid_2514000/2514727.stm
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 10:26 PM“The revolution will be televised.”
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 11:02 PMgreat post alfredo. still, “skimirish” or not, what happened today was still disgraceful and could be important in the long-term.
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 11:19 PM13 people were charged tonight in relation to the riots including, according to RTE, four non-nationals. So the question arises can you be a non-national and a nationalist at the same time.
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 11:23 PMWell Henry maybe some of them are just anarchists. I suspect so. Note all the anarchist black flags present.
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 11:26 PMI think goes to prove the Sinn Fein/IRA don’t want a PROD about the place.
A real own goal - hows Gerry and Martin going to explain this in Washington ?
Headlines on CNN “IRA supporters disrupt parade, attack police”
JC
Posted by on Feb 25, 2006 @ 11:48 PMSF say they told their supporters not to come out against the parade. Republican SF, a splinter group set up in 86 was involved though. J Collins could you kindly avoid lumping everyone together.
Brian Boru
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 12:17 AMHey thanks for the compliment. the dossing times duely bows :)
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:02 AMThis post probably belongs in here more than anywhere else.
These pictures sickened and shocked me more than anything else I’ve seen today.
It’s some poor asian guy being dragged out of a Centra supermarket and set upon by the mob.The pictures can be found here
http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~z/today/
I found the link at indymedia here.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74504
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:13 AMThis is yet another example of how the camera can misinterpret reality, [toppling of Baghdad statue is another] the photos show an empty street with debris all over the place, making it resemble a war zone. What has been overlooked was much of this area was a building site.
The right to protest is a test of any democracy, I suppose we will now get the normal over-reaction from certain politicians and their pals within the media.
The guards contained any violence and there were a lot fewer broken heads than when the British army and RUC policed similar minor scuffles up north. This sort of ruff and tumble is unfortunately part of the democratic process and as long as it only happens on rare occasions in all honesty there is little harm in it. Better to have the odd public punch up to let off steam than people taking to the hills or doing their trick or treat routine.
As good old Corporal Jones used to say, “Don’t panic’. Oh and by the way lets have no more of it was down to Gerry and his peacemakers etc, nor what will the war criminal Bush make of it. Such questions are just not relevant. A bunch of Unionists organized a provocation down in Dublin, and the day turned out as they intended. Thus to say this puts any republicans on the spot is plain daft. The guards protecting Ulster Unionist, as it should be but never the less a sight to behold.
Still we are moving forward, there was a time not that long ago when Unionists would not venture across the border to that city of Sodom and Gomorra down south. Now they are demanding their democratic right to protest within the ROI and thanking the guards for protecting them. Turned out alright on the night!
Best regards.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:40 AMThis is yet another example of how the camera can misinterpret reality, [toppling of Baghdad statue is another] the photos show an empty street with debris all over the place, making it resemble a war zone. What has been overlooked was much of this area was a building site.
If it’s anything, I walked down O’Connell Street at 8am this morning, observant as ever. The post-riot pictures stilled shocked me.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 02:06 AMThat’s the first time I’ve ever been disappointed by a post from Mickhall.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 02:22 AMStill though most of the building site is now out on the street.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 02:55 AMAlfredo,
while recognising what you say, I must state that mickhall, is by a country mile, rhe best and most productive contribtutor to this site.
Though, he also is a sniping bastard.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 03:18 AMposted by Kathy C (I say this because my posts are being credited to other people)
Hi all,
The pictures were very interesting and thanks for putting them on this site for people to see.
The british empire put down the Easter rising of 1916 and members of those who promote the british way of life (unionist/orange order members) came to strut their stuff in the very same area of the Irish rising during the year the Irish Republic plan to have it’s army march in the capital to celebrate the Rising.
I’m sure there were many in the press and Irish politians back in 1916 that felt those who stood up to the british were evil. I feel those who stood up to the british orange way of life...back in 1916 were hero’s. The pictures of the streets look simmilar today as back then. Times move on...but so much stays the same.
posted by Kathy C no matter what the name is that follows (personally I think it is to keep people from knowing what Kathy C has to say)
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 03:50 AM(Brian Boru post)
This kind of puts a new perspective on things:
“Loyalists may carry Dublin bomber pictures
by Ciarán Barnes
23/02/2006
Organisers of a loyalist march through Dublin have said they cannot guarantee that images of a man accused of murdering 26 people in the city will not not be displayed during the demonstration.
Speaking to Daily Ireland yesterday, Love Ulster organiser Willie Frazer said: “I can’t give a guarantee a photograph of Robert McConnell will not be carried because I wouldn’t be against anyone carrying Robert’s photograph.”
Robert McConnell was a dual member of the Ulster Defence Regiment and Ulster Volunteer Force. He murdered scores of Catholics in the 1970s.
He played a part in the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings in which 33 people died. Twenty-six died in the Dublin attack.Speaking in 1999, John Weir, a former member of the RUC with whom Robert McConnell went on murder missions, implicated him in a further eight killings.
The mass murderer was shot dead by the IRA in 1976. Images of him have been carried at previous rallies organised by Mr Frazer’s victims group Families Acting for Innocent Relatives.Despite the weight of evidence linking McConnell to at least 41 sectarian murders, Mr Frazer defended the killer’s reputation.
“Anybody I know who knew Robert would say there is no way he was involved in anything. He was involved with the security forces and he helped the SAS and stuff like that but a lot of people would say that was just part of his job,” said Mr Frazer.
Relatives of those murdered in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings criticised Mr Frazer. Margaret Irwin of the Justice for the Forgotten group said his defence of McConnell was “very insensitive”.
She said: “We have very good information that McConnell was involved with the gang who we are convinced carried out the Dublin and Monaghan bombings.
“We believe McConnell was involved in up to 55 murders. There can be no doubt he was heavily involved with loyalist paramilitaries.”
Up to 1,000 loyalists and six bands are expected to take part in Saturday’s Love Ulster parade along O’Connell Street. The march is to start at 12.30pm and is expected to last one hour.
Orange Order members will take part but will not wear sashes or collarettes.
Yesterday morning, Republican Sinn Féin held a press conference in Dublin at which the party unveiled plans to protest against the march. The Continuity IRA has also vowed to disrupt the parade.
Love Ulster held a victims rally in Belfast last October. The event was widely criticised because it failed to give any mention to those who had suffered at the hands of loyalists and the state.
Loyalists paramilitaries such as Ulster Defence Association leader Jackie McDonald helped launch the Love Ulster campaign last September. “Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 03:53 AM(Brian Boru)
This story appeared in the Daily Ireland. I would like to know if Unionists on this forum condemn the remarks by Willie Frazer, and in particular the refusal to agree not to carry a photo of this vile man.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 04:01 AMGreat post Brian Boru.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 10:35 AMUnionists do not generally agree with you BB, I do, though.
Willie Frazer dos not speak for me any more than the rioting morons speak for Nationalism or SF.
Its a pity some other victims such as Ailen Quinton, do not similarly distance themsleves from Frazer. I note that Alan McBride, for instance, is not associated with LU.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 11:05 AMTAF: Those pics were shocking, faces clearly identifiable of the racist bastards kicking that poor man. I hope the Gardai throw the book at the racist feckers. A tricolour in the middle of that, too. Utterly shameful. Perhaps a few live rounds a la Bloody Sunday might have been appropriate after all.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 11:11 AMWell then Brian Boru by your same reasoning you wouldn’t allow Irish Republican marches through London or Birmingham or Manchester or indeed through Belfast city centre for that matter either.
Is that what you believe?
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:23 PMThat above post was from me.
C’mon Slug sort this out will ya!
- HARRY FLASHMAN -
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:28 PM(Comrade Stalin post)
Brian Boru, I’m not a unionist but I completely condemn the remarks of Frazer concerning this paramilitary-linked individual.
However I also condemn your rather shallow and pathetic attempts to justify the rioting yesterday. I also find the line you’re taking to be pretty hypocritical. IRA murderers are commemorated all the time by republicans during marches and demonstrations. The Sinn Fein website sells tacky pins and badges of people who drove a war during which civilians were murdered in this country.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:28 PMlove ulster is about those who have been murdered at the hands of catholics
i know there are many on this board who refuse to acknowledge this fact but catholics waged a war to cleanse NI of all things british including british citizens. They were supported by the southern government who provided arms and a safe haven for the murderous scum
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 01:33 PMUnionist the Southern govt never armed the IRA. There was an Arms Trial in the 70’s into allegations that some ministers (Haughey, Blaney and Boland) had tried to arm the IRA in NI. There is no serious suggestion that such attempts succeeded. On the safe-haven point, we have a written constitution and the power over issues like extradition is clearly in the ambit of the courts rather than the executive, unless there is an extradition treaty. Polls in the South always showed the vast majority against the IRA in the North,, whatever spin you want to put on it.
Posted by on Feb 26, 2006 @ 02:08 PM
