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A one-off opportunity
That's how Tony Blair described the statement from the IRA that both Governments are insisting on waiting for. That's a one-off opportunity.. with a credibility threshold.. hmmm.. Update Transcript of the relevant section of the press conference added Another Update Details from Joint Communiqué British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference added Final Update Link to transcript of joint press conference between PM Tony Blair and Taoiseach Bertie Ahern added.

And if the opportunity is missed? Or the threshold ducked?

Will the Irish and British Governments continue with the current [and past?] strategy as described by Secretary of State for NI [and Wales - Ed] Peter Hain in an article in The Times -

But if you are going finally to crack the end of the process that culminated and then went beyond the Good Friday Agreement, these are the two parties[DUP and SF] that can most effectively deliver if they choose to do so.[added emphasis]

And if they choose not to? Is there a Plan B? Or will the Irish and British governments continue to replay the scene indefinitely?

Update With the BBC re-editing the original report.. sheesh.. I'm adding the relevant question, and answer, from the transcript of today's press conference

Question: Prime Minister, just looking forward to your meeting with the Taoiseach this afternoon and the hope for an IRA statement sometime in the future, how difficult do you envisage it will be to persuade Unionists that Republicans are for real this time, considering what has happened in the past?
Prime Minister: I think it is going to be very difficult to persuade Unionism of the sincerity of any Republican move, which is why that move has got to be clear and bold, because then it will have to result, if the Republicans do give up violence once and for all, it will have to result in a proper power sharing executive in which the Republicans are able to take their place at the democratic table. So it is immensely important that they do make this move, I don't know whether they will or not, but of course you know better than me that it would be daft to say after the events earlier this year that the credibility threshold was going to be easy to pass, but it can be passed, I am sure of that, if the IRA recognise that this is a one-off opportunity to accept what is now inevitable, which is that the only way that you are ever going to be able to pursue the cause that people believe in in Northern Ireland from the Republican point of view is peacefully, it won't happen any other way. And political progress has achieved a lot in Northern Ireland, but we have got to go on and make it achieve more. So it will be difficult, but on the other hand if it is done, and it is done genuinely and violence is genuinely given up, then the obligation then transfers to Unionists to make sure that they drop their opposition to going into a power sharing executive, and that is the situation really.[emphasis added]

Another Update A Joint Communiqué British-Irish Intergovernmental Conference, referred to in the above question, was issued this afternoon - full communiqué here

On the "Review of political developments" the Intergovernmental conference had this to say -

Both Governments reaffirmed their commitment to the full implementation of the Good Friday Agreement. It remains the template for political progress in Northern Ireland.
The Conference reviewed recent political developments, including the results of the Westminster and local government elections in early May and contacts since then with the parties in Northern Ireland. The Conference acknowledged that all political parties with significant electoral mandates had important contributions to make in advancing progress and looked forward to continued dialogue with each of them.
The Conference agreed that any prospect of restoring devolved government on an inclusive basis was dependent on the rebuilding of the necessary trust and confidence. This required the IRA to definitively end all paramilitary and criminal activity and to fully and verifiably decommission its weapons. In the context of such an outcome being secured and verified by the IICD and IMC, it would expect all parties to fully play their part in the restoration of devolved and inclusive government in Northern Ireland and in the operation of all of the institutions of the Agreement.

That would appear to build into the 'credibility threshold' the Independent Monitoring Commission's report[s?]

Final Update Transcript of joint press conference between PM Tony Blair and Taoiseach Bertie Ahern available here.

I'll just highlight this question -

Question: Prime Minister, Taoiseach, are you both in agreement that you don't require the disbandment per se of the IRA, and secondly how would you characterise your own relationship working together given recent speculation?

Prime Minister: Well, on the latter point, look there is a different position on the Common Agricultural Policy for very obvious reasons and the Taoiseach is, as you might expect and rightly so, is a very strong advocate of the Irish national interest. I have got to protect the British national interest. So there have been different positions on the CAP, but it is a relationship that has stood the test of time over the past few years and has worked extremely well and will continue to do so. And the interpreter's box here is for the Iraqi Prime Minister. I hasten to say that. I was a bit alarmed when I saw that actually when I came in.

On the first point which is to do with the form of disbandment. Look let us be very clear, otherwise you get into verbal battles which are not what is important. What is important is that the Republican movement pursues its aim by exclusively democratic and peaceful means, and that means an end to all violence and all preparations for violence. And therefore that means an organisation like the IRA moving into a different way of working, a different frame, a different modus operandi where it is no longer posing a threat of violence, or violence itself in the community in Northern Ireland. Now I think that is pretty clear and what language you use to describe how that happens is I think far less important than the blunt fact that you have got to have an end to violence in word and in deed.

Irish Prime Minister: And I think at the end of the day people will see very clearly whether we have achieved that or not and that is what matters. That violence and all the associated activities are over, then people will be immensely happy. And on the second part of your question I just want to wish the Prime Minister well for the Presidency ahead and for the G8 Meeting. I have had recent experience of it and regarding the CAP there are just a few million between us, but we will sort that out some other time.

That would appear to be something for everyone, then.. not that that approach hasn't been tried before..


Comments (15)

Words, words, words
I'm so sick of words
I get words all day through
First from him now from you
Is that all you blighters can do?

Sing me no song, read me no rhyme
Don't waste my time, show me
Don't talk of June, don't talk of fall
Don't talk at all, show me

Never do I ever want to hear another word
There isn't one I haven't heard
Here we are together in what ought to be a dream
Say one more word and I'll scream!

Posted by: slug9987 at June 27, 2005 02:48 PM


An unusual choice of lyrics, slug..

But perhaps we should be grateful you left the other verses out.. ;)

Posted by: peteb at June 27, 2005 02:54 PM


Peteb

Aren't you already preparing the sick bag for this "historic" statement?

Posted by: slug9987 at June 27, 2005 03:08 PM


Tony Blair................. words fail me.

Posted by: Friendly Fire at June 27, 2005 03:15 PM


slug

It's certainly true that the 'hype over history' approach is all too familiar.. especially when combined with the secretive meetings that have taken place and the lack of transparency in general.

Mark Devenport used an important phrase earlier today [possibly paraphrased here] - This is a statement that needs to be able to sell itself.

Posted by: peteb at June 27, 2005 03:23 PM


I think we are all arriving at the stage where it is put up or shut up time. There is no point in any IRA statement unless it breaks the mould and actually lives up to all the hype.

I would think Republicans are well aware of this fact and it is part of their ongoing discussions.

But the IRA are not the only obstacle and Republicans will likely need more than a "passing on of the obligation" to make the leap. Movement needs to happen and if Unionists want a decontamination period the two governments need to get their fingers out.

Full implementation of Patten, fast tracking of demil and speaking rights in the Dail would be a good start.

Posted by: DerryTerry at June 27, 2005 04:29 PM


The direct Balir quote from the BBC article is:

Mr Blair said the group must recognise this as a "one off opportunity".

He said if the IRA passed the "credibility threshold", the obligation would pass to unionists to drop their objections to power-sharing.

It seems to me that Blair is saying he will determine if the threshold has been met and not the DUP. Then he will tell Hain to call the Assembly which will fail to elect an executive causing another round of Assembly elections.

I say all this based on my observation that Northern Ireland has no true elections (where people actually work the jobs they are elected to) only beauty contests.

Posted by: Alan McDonald at June 27, 2005 05:55 PM


Alan

I will just indicate, although it doesn't necessarily alter your point, that the text of the BBC report which the link points to has been heavily edited since the original post went up.

Posted by: peteb at June 27, 2005 06:11 PM


Pete,

I recognize that some of the text I quoted was NOT spoken by Blair. Is there a video/audio/transcript of his remarks anywhere?

On the face of it, it seems he is giving himself the option of interpreting the IRA statement as he sees fit.

Posted by: Alan McDonald at June 27, 2005 06:19 PM


Alan

Added the relevant question and answer and the link to the transcript. I've highlighted the [long] sentence with both phrases. But he seems to be saying any statement needs to be able to convince unioninsts.

Posted by: peteb at June 27, 2005 06:31 PM


Pete,

Thanks for the speedy update! You guys are spoiling me. It's not easy to get the news without the spin.

When I was watching the US network news about today's Supreme Court rulings on the 10 Commandments, I was yelling questions at the screen that the stupid reporters forgot to ask. Fortunately, I could get on the Internet and read the opinions for myself.

Posted by: Alan McDonald at June 27, 2005 06:45 PM


We're not done yet, Alan :)

There was a later joint statement and press conference, with PM Tony Blair and Taoiseach Bertie Ahern - referred to in the question above.. when there's a suitably full statement and transcript available online I'll add it.

Posted by: peteb at June 27, 2005 06:51 PM


"Simple lessons cut most deep.
This lesson in our hearts we keep:
Persuasion,protest,arguments,
The milder forms of violence,
Earn nothing but polite neglect.

England,the way to your respect
Is via murderous force,it seems;

You push us to your own extremes.
You condescend to hear us speak
Only when we slap your cheek.

And yet we lack the last technique:
We rap for order with a gun,
The issues simplify to one.

THEN YOUR DEMOCRACY INSISTS
YOU MUSTN'T TALK WITH TERRORISTS !!!

Thomas Kinsella--Ninth ghost in Butchers Dozen

Posted by: martin at June 28, 2005 11:50 AM


Martin

Excellent wee post there, very infornative and sits well with me, just goggled Kinsella ... a real treat.

Go raibh míle maith agat

Posted by: tomasmaguire at June 28, 2005 12:34 PM


"there are just a few million between us, but we will sort that out some other time."
A FEW MILLION !!! of other peoples money -what a slimy toe rag, of course it may be the company he keeps

Posted by: barnshee at June 28, 2005 12:41 PM



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