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May 09, 2005 Trimble delivered DUP to the middle ground Understandably much of the media mind is focused on the David Trimble, some of it intelligently turning over his legacy - what worked and more often what didn't. Here Steven King puts up a sturdy case for the defence. It's not dissimilar to the case that Sylvia Hermon put yesterday on RTE, that David Trimble had "delivered the DUP to the middle ground": David Trimble has finally used up his nine lives, but it's amazing that he sustained support for it within unionism for so long. He had to use some ingenious – some would say dubious - methods. Furthermore, he alienated many nationalists with his stratagems. Nevertheless, he struck a far more ambitious deal than Brian Faulkner did, and got away with it for years longer. History will record that he kept the agreement sustained long enough to alter the terms of debate. Even the DUP uses the Good Friday Agreement to buttress its arguments. Equally, after the experience of last December, nobody believes that the DUP is actually seeking to reinvent the wheel: the changes it would settle for, if it could, are purely administrative. I thought the DUP where the extremists........? Posted by: Indeed at May 9, 2005 12:29 PM "...the unionist population swung massively behind the DUP because it believes that, whatever the nuances of the DUP's theoretical position, it is the best bet for keeping Sinn Féin out at all costs. How high those costs will be in the long term remains to be seen."
Posted by: Jo at May 9, 2005 01:14 PM Jo, You've swallowed the old line that anything bad must be a result of those bad old colonial direct rule ministers. Being in perpetual opposition allows our MPs to take the credit for anything nice and avoid blame without actually doing anything. The water charges are as a direct consequence of decisions taken by the assembly when it was up and running. I wonder why our politicians arent telling us that ? Posted by: mnob at May 9, 2005 01:50 PM I would agree with Steven King's analysis. Posted by: willowfield at May 9, 2005 04:37 PM Poor Steven, I suppose he has to say something but really....is that the best he can come up. I suggest that John Alderdice offers his professional services to those sad delusionists in the UUP who STILL think that they were cheated by those bad DUP'ers and their duped voters. The pro-Union electorate did that which the gutless UUC failed to do - it removed Trimble. Were we waiting on the Zimmerframe fraternity, DT would still be the man. Steven King may go unchallenged in his revisionism on big media, but let's be honest, big media was SURPRISED at the wipe-out. How little it and the lickspittles that inhabit it, know! Posted by: David Vance at May 9, 2005 04:54 PM Not sure how David Vance's comments relate to anything Steven King said. Posted by: willowfield at May 9, 2005 05:12 PM Willowfield, I'm not surprised you're not sure. Posted by: David Vance at May 9, 2005 06:09 PM I'm not surprised you failed clearly to articulate how your comment related to what King said. You're more interested in bluster and assertion than in debate and argument. Posted by: willowfield at May 9, 2005 07:15 PM Well somebody changed the DUP's approach to power sharing and inclusive Govt (including a photographed SF). Somebody enabled them to visit the Dublin Govt because it no longer had Articles 2&3 - once again who put the DUP in this position ? Put it another way if the DUP had entered this election saying they believed in simple majority rule, SF, under no circumstances, will ever be dealt with and they would have nothing to do with an interfering Dublin Govt would they now be the biggest Unionist Party ? I think not - they have had to move and although they may have learned the tune of moderate Centre ground unionism they know few of the verses. They are both slow learners and poor imitators feeding of a combination of protestant sectarianism and fear. All bluster and swagger but SF will run rings round them because they will have to do absolutely nothing. Nationalism will simply usher in instability and decline and wait around for meaningful and broad support for the union to melt away. Meanwhile the DUP will consider non participation of SF in a partitionist settlement as a victory. I hope Paisley lives long enough to witness the arrival of the UI his policies will eventually usher in - it will be his ultimate humbling before he meets his maker. Posted by: John East Belfast at May 9, 2005 07:36 PM David, I thought the rule was ball not man. Posted by: Jo at May 10, 2005 10:21 AM Oh, and mnob, I find it easier, if not better manners, to spit rather than swallow! ;) Posted by: Jo at May 10, 2005 10:23 AM |
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