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March 09, 2005 The strange solipsistic world of the IRA If there was proof needed of the growing gap between Sinn Fein and the IRA on one hand and the liberal sentiment of Middle England, it's buried, none too deeply, in the Guardian's editorial: The statement is rooted in the republican movement's insistence on its own autonomy, in its private and closed belief system, and in its axiomatic insistence that it cannot be answerable to any other law but its own. "Our investigation," it begins. But there can be no other proper body to conduct such an investigation than the police and no other process under which it can be carried out than a process of law. This is the IRA's world and in this world there is no law and no enforcement but their own. In particular, there is no place there for the police or the laws of states - north and south of the border - whose existence they do not recognise. It concludes: It is a death sentence not to the killers themselves, whom the McCartney family - being normal people - want to see arrested, charged and punished in the proper way. It is a death sentence to the credibility of those who want to live in the IRA world and our world simultaneously. Its not only Liberal Middle England who hold the opinions penned in this editorial. I think you'll find that most in Ireland would agree as well
Posted by: carlosblancos We know from Saville that the British Army decided in advance of Bloody Sunday to 'shoot the ringleaders'. In its defence, the BA explained that shooting people is not the same as killing them. It's comforting to see that liberal middle England does not make the same distinction. Or perhaps it depends on who's doing the shooting?
Posted by: barney Barney, I'd be interested in a link to that. The particular part of Middle England refered to has little or no sympathy with the soldiers on Bloody Sunday. That aside is there an important distinction here between before and after?
Posted by: Mick Fealty It just gets better and better, What an own goal. What a joyous day for the Union. The IRA issue a statemenr threatening to murder four men. This from the same dastardly organisation that robbed the Northern Bank whose notes were replaced today. Those who vote SF support murder. The IRA and Gerry Adams can now be seen in their true colours. The British government now have them on the run. An ultimatum should be immediately issued , disband within 24 hrs are face the wrath of the SAS. The Union today is more secure than ever. God Save The Queen.
Posted by: ulsterman Ulsterman - you don't need the SAS - the PIRA participants in this saga and many others used to be guests of HMG in the Maze and were released as part of the Good Friday Agreement on licence. Revoke their licence (as per the J Adair precedent) and they're off the streets until some sense in the Republican movement starts to prevail.
Posted by: drumcree Why bother issuing ultimatums? They're doing such a terrific job themselves. They are demolishing brick by brick every single myth/illusion peace processors held about IRA/SF. Channel 4 and the Guardian have turned on them. The US government is treating them with total contempt. Sit back, relax, and enjoy.
Posted by: Acer "Revoke their licence (as per the J Adair precedent) and they're off the streets until some sense in the Republican movement starts to prevail." It doesn't work that way, sorry to disappoint
Posted by: cg Why bother issuing ultimatums? They're doing such a terrific job themselves. They are demolishing brick by brick every single myth/illusion peace processors held about IRA/SF. Channel 4 and the Guardian have turned on them. The US government is treating them with total contempt. Only Ann Cadwallader and Damien Kiberd are left to put in a good word for them. That's like having Robert Fisk on your side. Even if they do (very) well in the Meath by-election it will only be a temporary respite. Sit back, relax, and enjoy.
Posted by: Acer "A la carte" application by PIRA/Sinn Fein of the rule of law, democracy, criminality and each and every other element of the Good Friday simply won't work either. It's wake up time!
Posted by: drumcree I suggest you follow your own advice
Posted by: cg mick, Sorry, but this is the best I can do. There are numerous refernces to 'shoot the ringleaders' and 'Shoot does not mean kill' but you have to plough through a lot od testimony to find them. The search function is not much help I'm afraid.
Posted by: barney http://www.bloody-sunday-inquiry.org.uk/index2.asp?p=3 mick, Sorry, but this is the best I can do. There are numerous refernces to 'shoot the ringleaders' and 'Shoot does not mean kill' but you have to plough through a lot od testimony to find them. The search function is not much help I'm afraid.
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