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March 08, 2005 IRA statement in full! Here's a copy of the full IRA statement: The IRA statement: The meeting lasted five and a half hours. During this time the IRA representatives gave the McCartney family a detailed account of our Our investigation found that after the initial melee in Magennis's bar, a crowd spilled out onto the street and Robert McCartney, Brendan Devine and two other men were pursued into Market Street. One man was responsible for providing the knife that was used in the stabbing of Robert McCartney and Brendan Devine in Market Street. He got the knife from the kitchen of Magennis's Bar. Another man stabbed Robert McCartney and Brendan Devine. A third man kicked and beat Robert McCartney after he had been stabbed in Market Street. A fourth man hit a friend of Robert McCartney and Brendan Devine across the face with a steel bar in Market Street. The man who provided the knife also retrieved it from the scene and destroyed it. The same man also took the CCTV tape from the bar, after threatening a member of staff and later destroyed it. He also burned clothes after the attack. Reports in the media have alleged that up to 12 IRA Volunteers were involved in the events in Market Street. Our investigation found that this is not so. Of the four people directly involved in the attacks in Market Street, two were IRA Volunteers. The other two were not. The IRA knows the identity of all these men. The build-up to the attack and stabbings was also outlined to the family and subsequently set out publicly in the IRA's statement of 25 February. The IRA representatives detailed the outcome of the internal disciplinary proceedings thus far and stated in clear terms that the IRA was prepared to shoot the people directly involved in the killing of Robert McCartney. The McCartney family raised their concerns with the IRA representatives. These included: Firstly, the family made it clear that they did not want physical action taken against those involved. They stated that they wanted those individuals to give a full account of their actions in court. Secondly, they raised concerns about the intimidation of witnesses. The IRA's position on this was set out in unambiguous and categoric terms on February 15 and February 25. Before and after this meeting with the family, the IRA gave direct assurances on their safety to three named individuals who the family believe were the targets of intimidation. Since we met the family, at that time, the good offices of an independent third party have been employed to reinforce these assurances with two of the three men. To this point the third party has not been able to contact the other man. We have urged any witnesses who can assist in any way to come forward. That remains our position. The only interest the IRA has in this case is to see truth and justice achieved. Since we issued our statement on February 25 there has been much political and media comment on what we had to say. Predictably our opponents and enemies who have their own agendas have used this brutal killing to attack republicans and to advance their own narrow political interests. The public will make their own judgment on this. In the course of this we reiterated our position in respect of witnesses, including our view that all witnesses should come forward. We also revisited details of the incident. The conclusions of the IRA's investigations are based on voluntary admissions by those involved. The names of those involved in the attacks and stabbings of Robert McCartney, Brendan Devine and the assault on another man in Market Street were given to the family. This included the names of the two men responsible for providing the knife, using the knife, destroying the knife, destroying the CCTV tape and burning clothes. In addition we informed the family that: We have ordered anyone who was present on the night to go forward and to give a full and honest account of their actions. That includes those who have already been subject to the IRA's internal disciplinary proceedings. We are continuing to press all of those involved in the events around the killings of Robert McCartney to come forward. The IRA is setting out all of the above at length because it is important that those issues of truth and justice are successfully resolved. We are doing our best to work with the family and to respect their wishes." That is really badly formatted.
Posted by: slug9987 "Reports in the media have alleged that up to 12 IRA Volunteers were involved in the events in Market Street. Our [IRA] investigation found that this is not so. " Gee, how believable.
Posted by: slug9987 I'm working on it!
Posted by: Mick Fealty Hmmm, the offer to shoot the killers is not quite as clear-cut as the BBC indicated.
Posted by: Pat Curley "Firstly, the family made it clear that they did not want physical action taken against those involved." How does that equate to the BBC's statement that they were prepared to shoot people?
Posted by: redeye @ the-chamber.org.uk I think the relevant part of the statement comes directly before its reference to the family's concerns at what they were being told - "The IRA representatives detailed the outcome of the internal disciplinary proceedings thus far and stated in clear terms that the IRA was prepared to shoot the people directly involved in the killing of Robert McCartney."
Posted by: peteb Are we getting more weird spin from the Shinners ? How can the statement "we were prepared to shoot those directly involved" be anything other than crystal clear about what the IRA would have done had the McCartney family agreed ? Let's face it, the IRA have dug themselves into a hole that no-one can get them out of this time. Their statement is there in black and white.
Posted by: Roger W. Christ XVII stated in clear terms that the IRA was prepared to shoot the people directly involved in the killing of Robert McCartney. ... and it is SF's position that the IRA is the legitimate government of Ireland...
Posted by: IJP "and it is SF's position that the IRA is the legitimate government of Ireland" That is not Sinn Féin's position
Posted by: cg It would of course be an outrage if any legitimate government had a shoot-to-kill policy and any soldiers who brought dishonour to such a government should have to wait three years before rejoining the army and going off to Iraq.
Posted by: Henry94 peteb, thanks for pointing that out; I feel like an idiot for missing it on the first read-through.
Posted by: Pat Curley cg, from where does the IRA derive it's mandate ? Henry94, I see the old whataboutery comes into play again, only 10 posts into the thread.
Posted by: Roger W. Christ XVII "cg, from where does the IRA derive it's mandate ?" I don't know where the IRA gets its mandate from Roger, you would need to ask the IRA or read the green book
Posted by: cg only 10 posts into the thread. I was late home.
Posted by: Henry94 Posted by: Roger W. Christ XVII at March 8, 2005 11:14 PM Identifying hypocrisy is the same as the "old whataboutery"?
Posted by: Hector keep on the fight for Irish Freedom support Republican Sinn Fein visit us in Tyrone on www.rsfdungannon.com Posted by: Republican Sinn Fein Tyrone at July 28, 2005 07:27 PM Post a comment
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