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February 03, 2005 'What do you mean Pram and Toys'? It seems someone's not happy with the portrayal of yesterday's IRA statement as a "tantrum" - RTE are reporting that a second 2-line IRA statement has been issued warning "Do not underestimate the seriousness of the current situation". So, just to clarify then - Was it a threat or not? Update According to the BBC report this new statement, clarifying yesterday's statement, reads: The two governments are trying to play down the importance of our statement because they are making a mess of the peace process. Do not underestimate the seriousness of the situation. Hmmm... perhaps a little more time should have been spent drafting that original statement?... just a thought. The IRA seem to have lost the plot.
Posted by: slug9987 Damn pete, that was quick on the draw...
Posted by: Belfast Gonzo I thought it would be more appropriate if I followed it up, Gonzo.
Posted by: peteb Have the IRA really been asleep since before Tuesday 11 September 2001? Times have changed .... they wouldn't dare.
Posted by: GavBelfast Just as interesting, Sinn Fien made a statement for themselves "The IRA will speak for itself and Sinn Féin will speak for ourselves," Irish Times Breaking News
Posted by: James Gerry Adams BLAMES the London and Dublin Governments for playing the BLAME game, he really has lost the plot.
Posted by: vespasian The PIRA throw another tantrum because yesterday's tantrum didn't attract enough attention. Are there any toys left in the pram for tomorrow's tantrum?
Posted by: willowfield Why did 9/11 make an IRA return to war impossible? In the immediate aftermath of 9/11 an IRA return to war may not have been possible but as the years pass any inhibitory value 9/11 may have had diminishes. If 9/11 did/does prevent a return to war why have IRA weapons been an issue? If they can't be used then making them a stumbling block appears merely to be an excuse to avoid power-sharing.
Posted by: Robert Keogh "Are there any toys left in the pram for tomorrow's tantrum?" The RA have some pretty dangerous "toys" and this statement certainly comes across as sinister.
Posted by: Alan2 If 9/11 did/does prevent a return to war why have IRA weapons been an issue? Five reasons come to mind 1) Bullet through both hands is latest atrocity by IRA 2) Quartermaster and/or unit defects to RIRA or CIRA taking weapons 3) Members of unit do some freelancing a lá Adare 4) Individual member goes on rampage or decides to settle an old score or whatever 5) Another group raids the bunkers.
Posted by: Davros All valid points Davros. However, none of them translate into Sinn Fein holding a gun to the heads of negotiators or fellow members of the executive. Which is the reason promulgated for not sharing power with SF. Would, say, two uninterrupted years of the Assembly be worth it if at the end all the weapons were disposed of?
Posted by: Robert Keogh "Would, say, two uninterrupted years of the Assembly be worth it if at the end all the weapons were disposed of?"
Posted by: GavBelfast All valid points Davros. However, none of them translate into Sinn Fein holding a gun to the heads of negotiators or fellow members of the executive. Which is the reason promulgated for not sharing power with SF. You asked a specific question and got a specific answer. And - the reasons SF are in the Doogy-doos at the moment are not because of their blackmail, but rather failure to sign up to an end to criminality and their complicity in unacceptable events.
Posted by: Davros RK To answer the question: the issue is that the IRA can and does still use violence to control certain areas of Ireland. This in itself makes stable democracy impossible. However, when added to the fact that a party which seeks a position in the Government in the North and has representation in the Dáil is directly linked to the organization deliberately opposing democracy in this way, it becomes utterly intolerable. The weapons themselves are not the issue, and Unionists are foolish to keep going on about them. Ongoing violent activity is the issue.
Posted by: IJP [I]The weapons themselves are not the issue, and Unionists are foolish to keep going on about them. Ongoing violent activity is the issue.[/I]
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