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November 16, 2004 Coincidence ? UTV carries the story O'Donnell to step down from deputy mayor post Mr O’Donnell has cited personal reasons, denying it has anything to do with controversy and censure over his land deal. However, one has to wonder – did he jump or was he pushed ? HQ are very mindful these days of their image with the protestant community , and are bound to have been pleased with the story carried by Belfast Telegraph last night. Protestants perceive 'more moderate' Sinn Fein Sinn Fein's Chrissie McAuley and Marie Moore have also been deselected, although that could be overturned by the leadership. Same with Carmel Hanna (SDLP). SF's Alex Maskey and Fra McCann might leave the Dome of Delight to become full time folks on the hill if the Assembly gets back. Ditto the SDLP's Alban Maginnis, Alex Attwood and the DUP's Sammy Wilson and Nigel Dodds, who could both be MPs this time next summer. SF's Eoin O Broin is already gone to concentrate on EU matters, while Rev Eric Smyth of the DUP could go, depending on when God makes up his mind. Source: http://www.irishnews.com/access/daily/current.asp?SID=473844
Posted by: Belfast Gonzo Is Eric Smyth ill , or was that a jest ?
Posted by: Davros whoops, was supposed to be
Posted by: Davros Didn't Eric Smyth quit politics for a while, saying that God told him to?? I think this is what is being referred to, rather than his (not so) iminent death.
Posted by: ricardo Nigel Dodds is already an MP.
Posted by: carlosblancos Dodds is already an MP
Posted by: carlosblancos It stretches credulity when Joe O'Donnell says he was vindicated. When, and by whom? He first defended the idea of building town houses in his garden as his contribution to the housing problem; he claimed to be planning to give a site to an unidentified housing association; when the Housing Executive took action he withdrew his planning application without explanation. There is no reason to believe he did anything improper, but he certainly did something politically stupid, and Sinn Fein doesn't forgive stupid. Imagine Joe canvassing next time out and answering questions on the doorstep about housing.
Posted by: An Bearnach The SDLP are making big inroads into the Short Strand
Posted by: The Renegade Renegade. ``The SDLP are making big inroads into the Short Strand.'' Interesting. Go on.
Posted by: Billy Pilgrim Renegade I would also be interested to know what inroads the SDLP are making in the Short Strand
Posted by: cg Ricardo Re: Eric Smyth - correct. My wee joke was about when God would make his mind up about when Eric should stand down. He's already changed his mind one, so I'm having doubts about his infallability even as I write. carlosblancos That's why I said 'both'. I wonder if the Council gets a few changes, maybe some younger councillors, will it improve the climate in City Hall?
Posted by: Belfast Gonzo Gonzo While the bringing in 'new blood' will be repeated ad nauseam as changes, voluntary or not, occur.. it doesn't exactly square for SF with Eoin O Broin stepping out of the elected representative role as well. And did you hear Joe O'Donnell saying on the radio that his decision was part of SF's plan of "building for the future".. ouch!
Posted by: peteb Interesting that the SF website carries a Mitchell McLaughlin special on Cllr Joe. Was he pushed ?
Posted by: Davros as a 14 - just tried one of the new kit Kats -
Posted by: Davros Davros The last time Mitchel was wheeled out to commemorate a councillor, or other elected rep, who had fallen on his sword for the 'sake of the party' was when John Kelly 'stepped down'.... hmmm.
Posted by: peteb Exactly Pete :)
Posted by: Davros "The SDLP are making big inroads into the Short Strand" Surely you are indulging in satire, Renegade. 'Inroads' for the SDLP to that area would constitute finding it on a map. Were an SDLP figure to publicly state this would be up there with Attwood's claim the day before the 2001 westminster election that west Belfast was up for grabs- he lost by 20,000!
Posted by: irishman The SDLP are not making any inroads in the Shortstrand. Infact I think you will find come next May that O'Donnells IRA seat will go to the DUP thus giving Unionists again control of our capital city. The Shortstrand and Lower Ormeau have been decimated by new developments. A lot of Unionists now live there. The papists cannot afford the new housing so those commnities thankfully are being broken up. Next May the Papist flag will be kicked out of the City Hall. God Save The Queen.
Posted by: ulsterman "While the bringing in 'new blood' will be repeated ad nauseam as changes, voluntary or not, occur.. it doesn't exactly square for SF with Eoin O Broin stepping out of the elected representative role as well." O Broin swapped the backwater of City Hall to co ordinate the work of the two SF Euro MP's. Perfectly understandable to want one of their most able people to undertake such a job.
Posted by: Pat Mc Larnon Yes, Pat, taking an internal party promotion can be seen as one of the voluntary methods.. but still doesn't work as 'bringing in new blood' - he was the new blood. Anyway, tell us, did Joe O'Donnell fall on his sword.. or was he pushed?
Posted by: peteb Peteb I'd guess he was pushed.
Posted by: Pat Mc Larnon I'd say he was'nt pushed peteb. But this would be a chance for new blood, wouldn't it?
Posted by: cg It's good that SF will have young fresh new faces.
Posted by: Davros "The same will apply to the DUP when Paisley and some other DUP figures (who are also 'contaminated'with events in the past ) aren't there." Dont count on it Davros
Posted by: cg Don't ruin my evening cg ;) The thought of future generations of the DUP being like this one is too hard to bear!
Posted by: Davros I actually quite like Christopher. Queens is much quietier without him this year.
Posted by: cg not another student!!!!!
Posted by: Davros Whats wrong with students davros?
Posted by: cg Do I have to tell you ? ;) p.s. I'm one as well.
Posted by: Davros What are you studying Davros. You seem like a fenian double kind of guy.
Posted by: cg Just in case anyone believes i'm being bigoted in my last post fenian double means history and politics.
Posted by: cg Fenian double ? That sounds interesting:) At the moment Cultural Jargonography as I like to call it. Museums, monuments etc . Spent last night reading about , among other things, gendering of space and the Robben Island Museum , which is why I'm interested in developments at the Maze and the remembrance debate. The RIM site is fantastic. One of the best sites I have seen. I dipped into this and dipped out sharpish!
Posted by: Davros and now I'm off to watch Spotlight!
Posted by: Davros "I dipped into this and dipped out sharpish!"
Posted by: cg "law and politics"
Posted by: Davros Theology, surely?
Posted by: Belfast Gonzo That's a 'Paisley' ? ;) Lawyers should be banned from Parliament on grounds of conflict of interest!
Posted by: Davros “Law and politics" Actually a sizeable majority at Queens are of the Nationalist/Republican persuasion.
Posted by: cg Actually a sizeable majority at Queens are of the Nationalist/Republican persuasion. Even worse cg, I understand they even allow women to study there these days. The rot started when we gave them the vote - No wonder the world has gone to the dogs ;) Davros,now On The Run.
Posted by: Davros Davros for a comment like that you deserve to be on the run. "Actually a sizeable majority at Queens are of the Nationalist/Republican persuasion." I Actually ment those studying law but your assertion is also correct.
Posted by: cg
Posted by: Davros Oh, and I meant giving women the vote, not nationalists and republicans ...does that help ? ;)
Posted by: Davros " Actually a sizeable majority at Queens are of the Nationalist/Republican persuasion. I Actually ment those studying law but your assertion is also correct" Conclude entirely Did the course myself and found it to be a shitter What year are ye?
Posted by: Weapons Of Crass Instruction " Actually a sizeable majority at Queens are of the Nationalist/Republican persuasion. I Actually ment those studying law but your assertion is also correct" Conclude entirely Did the course myself and found it to be a shitter What year are ye?
Posted by: Weapons Of Crass Instruction Oops, humble apologies
Posted by: Weapons Of Crass Instruction 2nd Year
Posted by: cg "and speaking of which... Bell on Colin Powell's resignation" So much for the moderating influence of Tony Blair. When this is over he may wish he was found in the same hole with Saddam.
Posted by: James Admittedly it’s been a few years and I’m not sure if the course is structured differently now but we did crim law in the first semester of 2nd yr. Have you done the intricacies of Caldwell and Cunningham recklessness yet?.
Posted by: Weapons Of Crass Instruction It's back in the news .....
Link fixed A.U.
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