Slugger O'Toole Notes on Northern Ireland politics and culture Slugger O'Toole Notes on Northern Ireland politics and culture

You are here
Home | Negotiations | Bush call to Paisley...


Next or Previous
« It's not all about politics... | Main | Dumbing Down. »




SOS - Save Our Slugger!

Help fund Slugger's new software:

Or mail it direct to Slugger!



Bush call to Paisley...
US President George W Bush has phoned Ian Paisley to support efforts to restore the Assembly. During Bush's last visit to Hillsborough, Prime Minster Blair was said to have kept the DUP away from the President - a mistake, some believed, as Bush is much more likely to be listened to by the DUP than a hundred Bill Clintons. It was, like so much Blair gets involved in, another missed opportunity.

Comments (27)

I'm sooo nervous...

Posted by: Warm Storage [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 03:45 PM


It does kinda mirror how Clinton urged on Sinn Fein in the run-up to Good Friday 1998. No?

Posted by: Belfast Gonzo [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 03:53 PM


Gonzo

"Bush is much more likely to be listened to by the DUP than a hundred Bill Clintons"?

Hmmm.. zero times 100 is still zero, isn't it?

It's more probable that the DUP (and Paisley in particular) are, and were, unlikely to 'listen to' (or, in this context, accept assurances from) either of them in the absence of other evidence.

Posted by: peteb [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 03:55 PM


I'm not. Bush supports a low dollar which is good for me and my business, and... Oh no, wait, this is one of those liberal sites where we talk about big oil and conspiracy and other stuff that has no effect on the average Joe. Right, gotcha. My coat is still on.

Posted by: Beowulf [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 03:56 PM


The presidential call at these critical junctures is usually a portent of something on the horizon.

Posted by: Warm Storage [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 03:58 PM


And it also avoids the possibility of accusations of not doing enough to "help the 'peace' process".

By itself it means little.

Posted by: peteb [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 04:03 PM


Here is the poodle's payoff for Iraq. I think we saw him coming.

"I'm not. Bush supports a low dollar which is good for me and my business, "

That dollar cost me 1500 bucks this year. Carry your own water for a while, fella, we don't care for freeloaders cruising on our dime.

Posted by: James [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 04:31 PM


Come on Beowulf, I do my best to inject a little neo con from time to time!

Posted by: Mick Fealty [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:05 PM


I like Bush and believe he is an honest and decent man - he's worth a million Clintons!

Posted by: Christopher Stalford [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:06 PM


Christopher -wanna buy an oil well or two ?

Posted by: Davros [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:09 PM


I can hear George W. now....

"Ian, you've got to give in to those terrorists - honest, for the sake of peace make sure you dont bother about the guns"

Yeah right!

Posted by: Will [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:11 PM


Having said that, Dr. Paisley will not be bounced by an American President acting at the behest of Tony Blair.

Unlike others.....

Posted by: Christopher Stalford [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:11 PM


They both have a lot in common. One is a religous fundamentalist with policies and beliefs that have brought death and destruction to others of a different religion. The other is a dimwit draft dodger prepared to lay down someone elses life for their principles.

Posted by: Pat Mc Larnon [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:36 PM


which one is which pat ? ;)

Posted by: Davros [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:50 PM


and how did Mitchel McLaughlin creep into this debate? ;o)

Posted by: peteb [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:51 PM


Wonder would Bush settle for Al Queda to post a few polaroids of WMD? Tony calling in a favour - I reckon it's a sign of desperation.

Posted by: David Vance [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 05:54 PM


David Vance,

On your part it would seem that it's more hope than desperation.

Is there any deal that would achieve full IRA decommissioning and an end to their paramilitary and criminal activity that you would accept?

Your analysis has been continually rejected by the people of Upper Bann but, at least for you, the BBC will continue to give you a platform for your one man band.

Posted by: NeoCon [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 06:01 PM


Bush's interjection in NI politics can only hurt. Maybe God told him to do it like he told him to invade Iraq.
And 53p/72euro on the dollar sucks. It will cost me an extra $500 this spring.
Bob Murphy New Jersey

Posted by: murphii4word [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 06:53 PM


NeoCon:

"Your analysis has been continually rejected by the people of Upper Bann but, at least for you, the BBC will continue to give you a platform for your one man band."

It's the entertainment value. It's show biz after all.

P.M.


"The other is a dimwit draft dodger prepared to lay down someone elses life for their principles. "

Four years ago I heard the same thing said about Clinton. The difference is that Bush makes Clinton look like Rommel.

That being said, never, never, never regard Bush as a dimwit. No one gets through Yale and into Harvard Business School without some gray matter.

He is capable of learning quickly. For instance when Kent Hance's campaign manager gutted Dubya in '78, Bush turned right around and hired him. That's how Karl Rove got on the team.

Bush's problem is one of scope and imagination: He is a hedgehog. Alternatives are either not seen or ignored and the status quo continues until he hits the brick wall. My problem is that I hit the wall with him.

So do you.

Posted by: James [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 07:11 PM


I knew you'd get that Dav

Posted by: Pat Mc Larnon [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 07:28 PM


If Paisley make the deal then he will probably get an early visit to the White House as First Minister.

I hope everybody involved in the negotiations has the courage to do whatever it takes to make the deal.

With the DUP on board we will have near enough to unanimous consensus behind the Agreement. That is worth any amount of decommissioning.

Both Paisley and the IRA need only give the nod and we're there.

Posted by: Henry94 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 09:30 PM


"Having said that, Dr. Paisley will not be bounced by an American President acting at the behest of Tony Blair."

Regardless of what you think about I.K. Paisley, please don't refer to him as Dr. Paisley. It is an insult to anybody who is doing/has done a PhD at an ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY i.e. one which has the power to bestow a recognized degree.

Posted by: Cahal [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 11:12 PM


"I'm not. Bush supports a low dollar which is good for me and my business, and... Oh no, wait, this is one of those liberal sites where we talk about big oil and conspiracy and other stuff that has no effect on the average Joe. Right, gotcha. My coat is still on."

When 'big oil' influences a president's decision to go to war and kill tens of thousands of people, it has an affect on ALL of us. But as long as your making more money, that's OK then.

Posted by: Cahal [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 11:19 PM


you're.

Posted by: Cahal [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 26, 2004 11:19 PM


And finally some good news for Trimble, as he'll get a call from W later today too....after all, what would Thanksgiving be without a turkey :0)

Posted by: davidbrew [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2004 07:32 AM


Has he turned trurkey?

Posted by: Henry94 [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2004 07:40 AM


Come on! A hundred Bill Clintons would be a lot of fun. It's not his fault the French like him. Besides, there's more to life than oil, money and power.

Posted by: Paul at May 1, 2005 09:50 PM



Post a comment




Remember Me?



(you may use HTML tags for style)

NOTE: When adding hyperlinks, please follow this format:
<a href="(URL)">hyperlink</a>
It is important that you include http:// when adding the URL.

Slugger O'Toole records news, commentary and diverse opinion on Northern Ireland.

Produced by Mick Fealty
Designed by River Path

News, tips or crits here: mick.fealty -at- gmail.com
(change "-at-" to "@")

Commenting Policy


Topics
a long peace?
books
Britain
Conflict
Culture
Economy
Education
election 2003
Election 2005
Enviroment
environment
Europe
Gaeilge
Glossary
Government
Highlights
Human Rights
Humour
International
Manifesto
Media
Nationalism
Negotiations
Parties
Policing
Soapbox
Society
Sport
the south
unionism

Highlights
Out with the crystal ball...
Just a Mo...
Commenting Policy
A backgrounder on the McCartney affair
Northern Bank raid and political fallout, so far

Readers comments
More corrupt than last year? - (4)
Living on an island or in a state? - (31)
a combination of historical ignorance and monumental self-pity - (42)
Payout time... - (4)
New Lansdowne revealed - (24)
Far right 'imagination'... - (13)
Nazi comments were a sectarian slur - (3)
The price of peacemaking... - (17)
belfast metropolitan area plan unveiled - (23)
Why (or rather how) Alec Reid was right... - (37)


Archives
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
July 2004
March 2004
October 2003
September 2003
May 2003



Design: River Path Associates Comments: Big Blog Co Powered: Movable Type 3.15 Copyright © 2003 Sluggerotoole.com All rights reserved.