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Who owns the roads in Ballymena?

Tue 31 August 2010, 10:18am

We often hear from supporters of the  loyalist Marching Orders that those opposed to parades don’t ‘own the road.’

A 58-year old woman was assaulted during a Black Institution parade in Ballymena at the weekend. Her ‘crime’ was to cross the road during a gap in the parade, which allegedly prompted marchers to assault her. During the assault, the 5ft 1 lady was punched in the face and neck and had her fingers dislocated.

No doubt those responsible will be swiftly brought to justice as there could hardly have been a shortage of witnesses- not least from the Loyal brethren on parade….

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Comments (261)

  1. Blair says:

    Latcheekoo,

    Our enemies are not people who have a slight difference of opinion with us. They are people who want to destroy everything that we stand for, and quite a few of them are also perfectly willing to kill people in order to try and achieve that.

    You do not appease people like that.

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  2. Blair says:

    USA,

    Then that is the problem solved. No attacks from violent republicans and there is no problem.

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  3. Impartial Observer says:

    Err Neil if you turn right at the bottom of William Street it takes you down Broughshane Street towards Broadway and away from not towards the chapel.

    Some parades are along Market Road and then turn right along Broughshane Street away from the chapel at the new roundabouts at the end of Parkway, those through William Street turn right away from the chapel and miss it by 1/4 mile – just as well you didn’t accuse me of lying!

    Perhaps you are misremembering like Mary McAleese remembers bands playing the National Anthem (God Save the Queen btw not the Soldiers Song) outside her chapel – perhaps that’s waht you actually believe – in either case it is as you so succinctly put it “utter shite” for someone who says he lived a few hundred yards away!

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  4. Impartial Observer says:

    http://www.broadgreenradio.co.uk/images/cricket4.jpg

    Maybe he’ll lend you his boots Neil? Then you’ll only need to deferentially lower your eyes as the parade passes so as not to make eye contact with the members of the loyal orders in your role as a member of MOPE to know which way they are turning by looking at the R & L on your footwear.

    By the time you finish this blarney there’ll be parades of kick the pope bands marching up & down the aisles of All Saints during requiem masses – and worse still some people will believe you!

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  5. Peter Brown says:

    Neil

    You haven’t by any chance remembered speaking to father Chesney on his deathbed as well as the geography of the part of Ballymena where you used to live?

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  6. Impartial Observer says:

    Neil

    While you are trying to remember the geography of the part of Ballymena where you apparently lived for 15 years – you didn’t happen to visit a Donegal Republican priest on his deathbed around the same time? Your memory is as selective as someone else we all know I think….

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  7. Impartial Observer says:

    Hmm great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing?

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  8. Neil (profile) says:

    Err Neil if you turn right at the bottom of William Street it takes you down Broughshane Street towards Broadway and away from not towards the chapel.

    Quite right you are, and by extension if you turn left you go past the chapel. I do remember parades doing just that, quick look on the parades commission website proves that, although the vast majority of parades do turn right at the bottom of William street.

    Some parades are along Market Road and then turn right along Broughshane Street away from the chapel at the new roundabouts at the end of Parkway, those through William Street turn right away from the chapel and miss it by 1/4 mile – just as well you didn’t accuse me of lying!

    And as I say those that turn left go directly past All Saints.

    Perhaps you are misremembering like Mary McAleese remembers bands playing the National Anthem (God Save the Queen btw not the Soldiers Song) outside her chapel – perhaps that’s waht you actually believe – in either case it is as you so succinctly put it “utter shite” for someone who says he lived a few hundred yards away!

    You’re getting carried away now. My stating that I lived in Ballymena does not equate to me saying I lived a few hundred yards away from anywhere. Ballymena’s not a big place, but as I think you probably know already, it’s not 400 yards across, so saying you lived in the town does not automatically put you within a few hundred yards of anything necessarily.

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  9. Impartial Observer says:

    Neil

    No parades that I am aware of turn left out of William Street towards the chapel – examples?

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  10. fyi says:

    43428 RBP No 1191 Cromkill Occidental Star (Ballymena) Ballymena 28th August

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  11. Neil (profile) says:

    Don’t have a whole lot of time for trawling atm, but here you are:

    http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=32401
    http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=32774
    http://www.paradescommission.org/parades/?parade=32832

    Any response to:

    a) the fact that I misremembered, from more than 15 years hence, the word Road as the word Street, being a fairly thin example of proof that I may not come from Ballymena? Or is conflating the word Street and Road instant proof of being a liar?
    b) your claim that the bands were moved to William Street at a time when the pubs were not open is either inaccurate or a lie (almost as high a crime as conflating the words Street and Road one might say), as the parades regularly take place on Fridays and Saturdays in the evening when the Slemish, O’Hanlons, The Inn, The Cosy Corner and maybe 2 or 3 more Catholic frequented bars are open for trade as one might expect on a week end?
    c) that I never suggested where in Ballymena that I lived (for obvious reasons), neither yards from any given spot as you state or as you consistently insinuate I’m lying about While you are trying to remember the geography of the part of Ballymena where you apparently lived for 15 years.

    I have read into it on the PC site, and yes it would appear that you are largely correct, most parades these days go down William Street and turn right. Though some do not, and from memory plenty of them used to come through the town, and on out to Broughshane via Broughshane Road.

    It would be interesting to see if you can come clean and admit you’re wrong on the points listed above, though either way the conversation’s dead. It all seems like a diversionary tactic to move away from the topic of the lady assaulted at an Orange parade on William street, but then that’s probably all lies too, hell she’s probably not even from Ballymena, especially if she makes a grave mistake such as conflate the words Road and Street (presumably people pretending to be from Ballymena who are not pepper their posts with intentional mistakes as I’m sure any info in the public domain most likely refers to Market Road as Market Road).

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