Slugger O'Toole

Conversation, politics and stray insights

Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry

Mon 22 September 2008, 8:37pm

The Ulster Unionists have replaced David McNarry as the party’s chief whip in the Assembly. It’s part of a raft of changes in roles, including changes in some of the committee chairs held by the party. His replacement is Fred Cobain, whose left of centre views on social issues had marked him out as a potential rebel to any future tie up with the Conservative party, although there has been no confirmation that he’s against the deal. McNarry now moves to become the party’s spokesperson on Finance.

Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Delicious Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Digg Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Facebook Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Google+ Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on LinkedIn Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Pinterest Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on reddit Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on StumbleUpon Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Twitter Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Add to Bookmarks Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Email Share 'Exclusive: Fred Cobain replaces McNarry' on Print Friendly

Comments (27)

  1. bisto says:

    Poor Old McNarry – sacked for annoying Reg’s new mates in the Tories.

    Cue Chekov et al protesting that this isn’t the case, even though they’ve been calling for it for weeks..

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  2. Bob Wilson says:

    ‘no confirmation that he’s against the deal.’
    Interesting double negative Mick

    Bisto – I missed the Conservatives calls for McNarry’s sacking – on second thoughts I didnt – there werent any.

    We know when not to respond to any obvious wind up by the DUP

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  3. bisto says:

    Bob

    The Tories didn’t call for McNarry to be sacked, but Chekov (I think) did. Anyhow, it’s fairly obvious why this has happened.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  4. DC says:

    Fred should fit in with these Tories, they are after all BluLabour now; McNarry is an idiot who belongs with Jim Allister.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  5. qwerty says:

    “Poor Old McNarry – sacked for annoying Reg’s new mates in the Tories.”

    As Mick’s article states, I would’ve thought that Cobain makes a more unlikely Tory than McNarry.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  6. fair_deal says:

    Mick

    Some threads with possibly relevant background

    http://sluggerotoole.com/index.php/weblog/comments/simmer/

    http://www.sluggerotoole.com/index.php/mcnarry-wants-an-apology-from-conservatives/

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  7. percy says:

    McNarry,
    Is that the taxi-driver at the end of Hearts and Minds?

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  8. Michael Shilliday says:

    McNarry was really quite supportive of the Conservative link at the party executive last week. So no conspiracy there.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  9. frustrated democrat says:

    Is finance not more important than being a whip?

    I know which I would prefer.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  10. Michael Shilliday says:

    FD, you’ve fallen for the line that Fair Deal has been pushing. Your comment assumes that he’s been sacked or demoted, which as you rightly come to the conclusion that he hasn’t.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  11. Bemused says:

    McNarry is a vile creature who deserves any and every piece of unpleasantness he gets. I, like many others, will never forget his outrageous antics on live television during the initial Drumcree ‘protests’ when he quite openly cheered-on the thugs who had set about wrecking all round them and then threatened all and sundry that he and his followers could ‘paralyse’ the North if they felt like it. In any other civilised democracy the odious little twerp would have been arrested and detained on the spot. Unfortunately the persistence of ulster unionism in tolerating him and his ilk within the party will continue to cause them electoral problems in the foreseeable future.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  12. Mack says:

    McNarry was sacked as he opposed the Northern Ireland Conservatives statement about the Orange Order. At least Fred will not be without help with Billy Armstrong Deputy Chief Whip they should be a good pair??

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  13. bisto says:

    Michael

    Nice try. Chief Whip has special office space, resources and allownces etc. as you very well know. Finance spokesman does not.

    This was clearly a demotion/downright sacking.

    McNarry broke ranks: he’s been sacked.
    Cobain who was expected to be unhappy played ball with Reg: he was promoted. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.

    I also though it was very interesting that McNarry was “declined to comment” in today’s Belfast Telegraph. How often does David McNarry ever decline to comment on anything?!!!

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  14. Michael Shilliday says:

    So for you politics is about a nice office and more money? That’s quite an indictment of your attitude.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  15. qwerty says:

    LOL! Why are the DUP supporters so keen to view every internal UUP development through the prism of one local Tory’s personal views about the Orange Order? The notion is so aburd, it’s beyond ridicule.

    One can only conclude from the fanatical obsession with Mr Peel’s opinions that the DUP can find nothing else to criticise and are really very afraid about the potential impact of the potential merger.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  16. bisto says:

    No Michael, not at all. But it’s clear that you are attempting to decieve.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  17. Michael Shilliday says:

    Well if that isn’t your vision of political success what is? What other measure are you using to determine he was sacked?

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  18. Chekov (profile) says:

    “The Tories didn’t call for McNarry to be sacked, but Chekov (I think) did.”

    I didn’t call for him to be sacked. I think these are good moves for the UUP. It makes use of people’s talents where they lie.

    What do you think?
    (Log in or register to judge or mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  19. bisto says:

    My vision of political success is not relevant to the discussion at hand. The fact is that moving from being Chief Whip to a mere party spokesman post is a demotion.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  20. Michael Shilliday says:

    You said:

    “Nice try. Chief Whip has special office space, resources and allownces etc. as you very well know. Finance spokesman does not. ”

    So clearly your vision of a demotion is losing taxpayer funded perks, rather than loss of ability to frame the political agenda. That’s quite disgusting.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  21. bisto says:

    We can have a philispohical discussion about my definition of political success if you wish – I would define political success as using political office to advance the aims and priorities I believe in.

    As to the other issue – you were they one who attempted to assert there was no demotion when there so clearly was. Keep digging Michael, the fact that you are denying this reality confirms it for me.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  22. Michael Shilliday says:

    You have failed to explain how this is a demotion beyond losing a pretty office and a few quid an taxpayers expense.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  23. bisto says:

    Outside of Party Leader and government Ministers, Chief Whip is the next senior position in the pecking order of political parties, I would put it above a Committee Chairmanship. The fact that the Stormont authorities provide as part of the post supplementary office space and allowances is reflective of this situation. Stop attempting to misrepresent what I was saying.

    Keep denying Michael but a blind man on a galloping horse can see that this was a demotion.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  24. wronghorse says:

    The DUP has backed the wrong horse on this. It isn’t because of the UUP Conservative tie in and associated OO argument. The demotion was because he was seen as too friendly with Basil.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  25. bisto says:

    Wrong Horse

    That is interesting……

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  26. Michael Shilliday says:

    Again, all you have is a few quid and a fancy desk. Your argument is based on the hope that he was demoted and seeks to find evidence for it. Pity there is none there.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0
  27. Suchard says:

    Has McNary been moonlighting acting as the Brush’s financial advisor on Uca Applications. 0r is my dyslexia playing me up is it Uca or Oca.Apparently The Brush is looking for the BetterWare franchise in East Antrim to try out his new wonder cleaning products there.Grant you The Brush will need all the admin. staff he can get to work as apparently he goes through staff like lightning.

    What do you think?
    Judge it
    (Log in or register to mark as offensive)
    Commend 0

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Copyright © 2003 - 2012 Slugger O'Toole Ltd. All rights reserved.
Powered by WordPress; produced by Puffbox.
0 queries. 0.291 seconds.